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president joe biden was called in by mitch mcconnell, who said he needed a dance partner in all of this. guest: if you remember on friday, the president said he was going to turn over the lead to senator reid and senator mcconnell to work out a deal that could pass the senate and that he would sign on to whatever deal that was. senator reid and senator mcconnell were not able to reach that deal. the negotiations between them have turned increasingly bitter and senator mcconnell basically said that he could not work with senator read anymore and reached out to joe biden and ask him to resume the role that he has had in previous negotiations. the arbiter, the deal maker. joe biden had not been as involved atoll has returned to washington and is now part of the negotiations in a way that he had not been expected to until yesterday. host: what will the house and senate be voting on today? will there be an agreement on the fiscal cliff or an alternative plan that would continue unemployment benefits and keep taxes at the bush era level? guest: i'm not sure that anybody knows. and that includ
question this. that negotiations between harry reid and mitch mcconnell suffered a major setback after republicans demanded the inclusion of a new method for calculating benefits for the package. change came from progressives to result in lower payments. part of the current negotiations on the scale down deal, they say that they gave ground on other issues, including raising the tax threshold, as well as -- that was from two hours ago. sheila jackson mentioned the change that she objects to, she and other outside democrats and house progressives in particular. don is on the democrat's line. go ahead with your comments. caller: i am an old disabled veteran. i love this country so much. i cannot understand for the life of me what our government is trying to do with the bickering and tearing each other down, tearing the country down. why in the world can these supposedly intelligent groups of men and women not get together to work out for the best interest of all concerned, all 330 billion americans, what is the best course to take? just take it. none of this squabbling. get together, fol
reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of democrat support that will not get republican support and none to speak of that would allow taxes to go up for people making more than $250,000 or 400,000 as was in the president's last offer and the answer to that question remains very, very unlikely. so we are where we are. this ain't schoolhouse rock, that's for sure. it's not like the house passes a bill, the senate passes a bill. this is a stand yau and the looks like the ultimate version of white house gridlock. >> right. and you mentioned the threshold. we have senator murkily on later today to talk about how crucial the filibuster is. i want to go right to steve kornaki here. we talk about the weather sometimes because it's more fun than p
more time at what is being discussed now. mitch mcconnell and joe biden talked into the wee hours until 12:30 last night and 6:30 this morning. $450,000 as the threshold for couples, $400,000 for individuals over which your taxes would go up about four percentage points. estate tax compromise. this is something democrats want as well because the estate tax is due to zoom up to 55% on estates more than $1 million if they're passed and nobody wants to see that happen. they are trying to work on a compromise. unemployment, insurance benefits. obviously something urgent for millions of people collecting and the long-term unemployed who have been unemployed for quite sometime. delaying that sequester. this is what i'm talking about. they're talking about delaying it perhaps three months. this is the ultimate kicking the can down the road. remember the sequester is what got us to this point to begin with. it was supposed to be trigger, the guiotine hanging over the necks of the members of congress to git them to do something by tonight. we only have about 13 more hours. one more thing to show
, it will come down to those pesky details. vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell the republican leader have been the key figures in these negotiations after talks stalled over the weekend between mcconnell and senate majority leader harry reid. mcconnell says he and the vice president spoke last night at 12:45, again at 6:30 this morning. mcconnell explained why he reached out to his former senate colleague mr. biden. >> i also placed a call to the vice president to see if he could help jump start the negotiations on his side. the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before, and i believe we can again. >> obviously we were watching to see what the senate does at this hour, what is said at this point i'm hearing it sound like 2:00 eastern time may be another critical time, when they may run by their members, the republicans and the democrats, the latest on those talks, and if there is a deal the details of the deal, jon. jon: we just had senate majority leader read making some remarks from the microphone, perhaps i'll get to word from the control
. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, there seems to be some hope that conversations between vice president joe biden and senator mitch mcconnell can produce a deal. aides say the two men spoke multiple times last night and will continue working toward a solution. mcconnell called the vice. president bush: after weighing 18 hours from senate majority leader harry reid who seemed to throw in the towel. >> there is still significant difference between two sides and negotiations continue. there is still time left to reach an agreement and we intend to continue negotiations. >> reporter: a big issue is what thresh do you continue the bush tax cuts. the democrats latest
mitch mcconnell said he wasn't willing to offer the white house a blank check just because we're on the edge of the cliff. take a look. >> last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> well, actually it's not a blank check the president has been pushing. and this isn't a partisan statement. look at the numbers in terms of what the public thinks about what the president ran on, which is to raise taxes for people who make over $250,000 a year. 47% of the country basically agrees with that, which is what he said. only 13% raise taxes for everybody. they are the real conservatives and fiscally hawkish i would say. and 35% say no tax increase. so americans tend to agree with the president. when you go back to this campaign, there are very few other statements he made a
with their jobs. >> mitch mcconnell was are riding on capitol hill just hours before meeting with obama. >> we are going to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> politicians on both sides have the responsibility but the president's tax hike will not do much to address the debt. >> the top 25 of american will not even pay one-third of the annual interest that is owed for this 16 trillion dollar debt. >> washington will return before the end of the year but they are likely to be burning the midnight oil. >>> we'll take a quick break on kron 4 news weekend. but first, let's take a live look outside at san francisco from our roof cam here on van ness avenue. let's take a quick look outside this morning at san francisco. outside this morning at san francisco. oh, you have a keurig vue brewer? oh, it's great! now i can brew my coffee just the way i love it. how do you do that? well, inside the brewer, there's this train that's powerful enough to carry more coffee and fresh water to make coffee that's stronger and bigger... and even hotter! actually, i just pre
mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really working that significantly on something. i think there was probably some minimal conversation, but not a lot. as for the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, i think that is a good one. a lot has been made in the past few days about him taking a higher profile role in these negotiations. while i don't like prognosticating into the future, we can look at the past in some of the previous negotiations of congress and the kind of role he has played. almost all of these talks, whether it was about government shutdown in the spring of 2011 or the debt limit debate in the summer of 2011 or the payroll tax-cut debate last year, those negotiations started at a level between the president and speaker but always broke down at that level
majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, and house speaker john boehner. have four dates to reach an agreement, but the u.s. economy would go off a fiscal cliff. that's when automatic spending increases and spending cuts would take effect. -- a deal will not be easy, because both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline. this is a conversation we should have had months ago. clerk democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making to a hundred $50,000 or more per year. many republicans are against any tax increases. -- democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 per year. >> d.c. mayor vinc
to mitch mcconnell, hey, if we jump off of this bridge, cliff, as it were, we're going to hold hands with you and not only bring along some republicans jumping off this cliff here but you have to make sure that john boehner comes along, too, and put something on the floor that's not going to get the majority of the majority republicans in the house of represent evs. that is the predicate, that is the condition in the senate. no one believes that john boehner will take that leap holding the hands of harry reid or mitch mcconnell, for that matter. the preponderance of opinion, the overwhelming belief and suspicion, however you want to phrase it, here in the capitol and downtown on k street is going over the cliff. only question now is how many days to extend past january 1st before they come back and do something about this, toure. >> yeah. well, mike just picking up on that point then, i guess that's the republicans all of their actions and pronouncements indicated that this, the timing and the sequence of this really matters to them in terms of, look, all the bush rates expiring on j
the republican leader, mitch mcconnell, who is the key here, does he sign off on a deal. if he signs off on a deal, something will happen. does he read that and say, boy, we need to take this tax issue off the table. he is a big believer of this. give the president his tax hike on the rich now. fight him on everything else when taxes aren't part of the conversation. fight him on everything else in six weeks when the debt ceiling is hit or eight weeks, 12 weeks, whenever that fight happens, and do that. i do think that mcconnell -- that's where he wants to be. can he get there in the next 24 hours? that's what we don't know. >> tom brokaw? >> well, it seems to me that the middle class is going to have a date for the prom. everybody is talking about protecting the middle class here. so i think this deal will probably get done around the middle class tax cut. it's at what level. $400,000 or $250,000 or some other number. which is going to be critically important. a lot of people don't realize in a large urban and suburban areas of america, $250,000 doesn't make you rich. have you two kids i
? >> there is no deal right now. the deal would be made by mitch mcconnell, he is the deal maker for the house and senate on fiscal issues. he talked last night like he had an offer from the president, that was denied by everybody this morning. my guess is this is for show. if there is a deal you will hear about it at 7:00 or 8:00 this evening as legislation popped onto the clerk's office in the senate hopefully getting up before midnight so they can pass in to order. what they ought to do is take bills the have already been passed by the house, the senate should amend those and pass those to the house today or tomorrow and get the business taken care of. those are pretty good bill that could be amended but we have not seen action from the senate so far. adam: three hundred million americans aged for the law into the potomac. thank you for being with us. bill beach from the heritage foundation. the white house meeting on the fiscal cliff is less than an hour away. we will tell you which companies will be first to get slammed by automatic spending cuts and tax hikes and still ahead a critical w
are sick of. while it's perfectly conversation. mitch mcconnell said our number one goal is is to defeat president obama. there is a sense that a lot of republicans want to just block every single thing. >> laura: if he doesn't get nominated because of the republicans. it's probably going to be because of the democrats, the jewish lobby comment and maybe not voting for the iran libyan sanctions. probably have republican opposition as well. margie great to see you. >> great to sigh. happy holidays. >> laura: happy holidays. next on the run down the newtown massacre stopped shopping in its tracks. later in the wake of that slort in slaughter in connecticut. new york newspaper publishes the names and addresses of local gun permit owners. has their privacy been breached? those stories and more when the factor continues. >> announcer: stop! living with hair loss, that is. losing your hair is no fun and no one wants to be bald, but there is hope. >> getting my hair back was the best thing that ever happened to me. >> i'm happy with the way i look now. >> i'm very excited about my hair. >> i fe
between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what it is. even if we get a very, very narrow deal, whoop-de-doo, we have a debt ceiling problem and amt taxes, government spending, all of those problems outstanding, nothing done. the dow jones industrial average is not done up for the opening bell, it's down, we're 42 points, 48 points going down as of right now. 50 points lower. what did you give, what did you get for christmas this year? chances are, a computer tablet maybe? according to the latest data from cnet, there were 17.4 million tablet activations on christmas day alone, more than double than last year. look at the two leading tablet makers, names that you know, let's start with
. mitch mcconnell said our number one goal is is to defeat president obama. there is a sense that a lot of republicans want to just block every single thing. >> laura: if he doesn't get nominated because of the republicans. it's probably going to be because of the democrats, the jewish lobby comment and maybe not voting for the iran libyan sanctions. probably have republican opposition as well. margie great to see you. >> great to sigh. happy holidays. >> laura: happy holidays. next on the run down the newtown massacre stopped shopping in its tracks. later in the wake of that slort in slaughter in connecticut. new york newspaper publishes the names and addresses of local gun permit owners. has their privacy been breached? those stories and more when the factor continues. >> laura: in the factor follow up seeing many tent, just hours after 20-year-old adam lanza shot and killed 27 people including 20 children in connecticut this month. the left began demanding new gun control measures. the city of chicago has seen unprecedented violence this year and the mainstream media has largely been
a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed to looking after the greater good of the economy and middle class families. >> as far as you-all were told by the democratic leader, where do you think stands --
is leaving it in the hands of harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they craft a package that members of speaker boehner's caucus would approve? that is what it is going to take, isn't i >> it is. and it could be possible, adam. e next 24 hours will let us know. we have a reedout from our colleague henry, according to a senior white house official exactly how this meeting went down. this according to a white house official. basically the president said, you know, look if the speaker can not come up with some type of compromise, or republican and democratic leaders can not come up with some kind of compromise, would they put up the president's plan $250,000 below vote in the house, the white house officials said the speaker was noncommittal. the white house officials said that it does not appear that the debt ceiling is part of this. that is a major obstacle for republicans in the house. they said that they wanted for the president a four year plan the debt ceiling. it could help carve the vote. adam: when the president says nobody gets 100% of what they want, is he tipping his hat th
will have to workout a compromise between harry reid, mitch mcconnell the democratic and republican leaders, and the president who is here in hawaii when you talk to his staff they say it's very likely some time after spending christmas with his family, whether it's the middle or later part of this week he's likely to head back to washington to sit down with congressional leaders and try to work this out. >> reporter: it's a bit encouraging for a lot of folks who were wondering about that question. i'm curious is there anyone on the island that is critical to the fiscal talks that joined the president on this trip or is everything being done electronically? >> reporter: most electronic leave. the one interesting point is when i mentioned the memorial service for senator inouye the person giving the oo eulogy was harry reid. they may have got even a chance for a little private time. the president and john boehner have not had any phone contact since friday. their staffs are still communicating but still really very little progress, jaime. >> reporter: thank you so much,ed appreciate the repo
, then there is negative political effects. now, that's why they've brought in vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, to try to close this thing. and they may close a deal, but there's no guarantee that even any deal they come to an agreement with tonight will actually make it tomorrow. >> and chuck, this congress has, your honor telling us, the lowest approval rating ever, the least productive. what happens when the next congress comes in later this week? >> reporter: well, the bad news is, if you view this as bad news, more of the same. because even if they get this temporary deal on taxes, temporarily buy down the automatic spending cuts, what they have set up is a series of mini fiscal cliffs, if you will, kate. so every three to six weeks, over the next six months, we could be going through nights like this where we're up against the clock and congress has to act and the president -- they have to figure out how to compromise or watch automatic headaches kick in. >> chuck todd is going -- it's going to be a long night. thanks for being with us on wall street today, this final trading day of the
,000. but republicans dropped their demand to cut social security benefits. at that point, joe biden and mitch mcconnell took over negotiations. the two worked together in the senate for 23 years and have a strong history of finding compromise. >> i think there's some good news. the conversations continued late into the night last night. i think now there is a better than 50/50 chance that we will avoid the fiscal cliff by midnight tonight. >> reporter: if the senate comes one a plan and passes it, the -- comes up with a plan and passes, it the house would have to vote on it. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:16. even if congress avoids the flip, your paycheck will still be smaller in 2013. that's because a temperature reduction in the social security payroll tax expires today. starting in january, workers will, once again, have 6.2% of their wages withheld to pay for social security. that's up from the 4.2% rate that's been in effect for the past two years. people making $50,000 will get about $83 a month less in their paychecks. >>> 7:16. a new report from the u.s. senate on the attack on the
. >> doug: late breaking news from mitch mcconnell's office. we hear all parties have been invited to a meeting at the white house tomorrow. however, we are hearing also from the senior democratic aides there is no such meeting and from boehner's people that they haven't been invited. welcome to washington. fiscal cliff negotiations as if to signify how america wants the parties to come together. starbucks barristas today are hand signing each of the coffee cup with the words "come together." anything will do at this point. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. a.b., the res tent numbers-cruncher. what do you make of the back and forth today? >> today was about the drama on both sides and blame game and showing they were going to come and call e want to get down to business before december 31, which is monday. we're not, there are no plans. no paperwork. there are conflicting reports about the meeting. it's all kind of depressing. when you poke arp you find out that the house is r
before then. mitch mcconnell telling us they have been going back and forth all day and talks are continuing into the evening. no major progress though yet to report. and that is how fox reports on this saturday, december 29th. i'mm harris falkner. tomorrow, tune in for a specialal two-hour fox report as the fiscal cliff deadline nears on the eve of the last stock market day of theae year. we will be all over it with deadlines and they are trying to get a vote, something together. "huckabee" starts now. >> this week on the journal editorial report. a look back at the year that was and what is ahead for 2013. 2012 was a tough year for conservatives on the national level, but in the states, some hopeful signs of reform, and looking forward, is the economy headed for rebound orie session? will the new year bring a with iran? our panel is here with their prediction. >>> welcome to this special edition of "the journal editorial report" as we look back at the year that was and the challenges that face us in 2013. first to our stories of 2012 and america's left turn from the supreme
to come up with a deal but with no luck. new mitch mcconnell is negotiating with vice president joe biden. if political leaders can not come up with a plan by midnight tonight tax rates for all americans will increase. >> if there is an ultimate compromise, there will be parts of it i find disgusting and rep hencable which i may have to swallow in the name of finding a compromise. >> reporter: how will this effect you come tomorrow morning? if there is not a deal reach there won't be a drastic change in your next paychecks. if this plays out long-term the average american middle class family stands to lose out on $2,000 to $3,000 over the next year due to the increased taxes. live in washington kyla campbell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 5:14 meanwhile with all the focus on the fiscal cliff a new bill to prevent the so-called dairy cliff is sitting on the back burner. leaders agreed to a one-year extension of the expiring u.s. farm bill. so far there is no house vote scheduled without passage of the bill milk prices could double next month. estimates are a gallon of milk could go up to $8 a ga
at the $550,000 mark. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell started negotiating with vice president joe biden yesterday. the two worked together in in the senate for more than 20 years. if they can come up with terms that pass the senate house speaker john boehner says they will take up the bill and either pass it or amend it and send it back for approval. >> any time you are putting a deal together, it's always the details that will kill you. you have to get the details done. there is a lot of back room operation going on right now. making sure all the i's get dotted and t's get crossed. >> congress has less than 15 hours to come up with a compromise and sweet on it. live in washington kyla campbell. >>> meantime with all the focus on that fiscal cliff there is a new bill to preconvenient the so-called dairy cliff on the back burner. leaders in the house and senate agricultural committees agreed to a one-year extension of the expiring u.s. farm bill. so far no house vote is scheduled. without matting that bill, the price of milk could double next month. estimates are ha gallon of milk
harry reid and mitch mcconnell will be at that meeting scheduled for about seven hours from now. this could be their last chance to find terms they can all agree to. the president and senate got back to work yesterday. the house of representatives just got the call to return sunday night. a vote has been taken by monday or else automatic income tax increase will kick in on tuesday. republican aid say their leaders might now get on board with that. even so there is economic proof that many americans still fear going over the fiscal cliff. i'll have more on that in my next update. live in washington kyla campbell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> analysts say if the country goes over the fiscal shift it could send the economy back if into a recession. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to return to work next week. a specksman for clinton says she continues to recooperate at home. doctors say clinton contracted a stomach virus earlier this month and became dehydrated and fainted. >>> the sonoma county sheriffs office will continue its search today for a possible plane crash.
stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt him in his election. remember rand paul -- mcconnell has less room to maneuver. for harry reid, a lot of his reputation is on the line. can he put something on the floor of the senate that some democrats will support? guest: the biggest loser is the unemployed and those trying to get jobs. that is what this is about. really, people need to step back and realize, while we are concerned about deficits, it is because it is a concern about the economy. there are different prescriptions for the economy at different times. allowing this recovery to slow down, even as it has already been anemic, would be a drastic abdication of responsibility by everybody in washington. that is not to say that everybody is equal to blame and this is something that washington does and be covered along -- that really is not always the case. in this specific case, you have our recove
on mitch mcconnell's office to see if vice president biden is swinging by today and one of the ways that the two sides may be having a form of a conversation today given the fact that we believe absent the calls, the president put out to the leaders, the house and the senate, that there's been no more conversations absent those between senior staff today. >> viqueira, a little birdie around the building said there's a pool that some people are in betting on when this thing will be wrapped up. and i heard you have january 10th. i would like to know your thoughts on why you picked january 10th. i would like to know what is the outlier date in this pool and if you have any intel on who else is in the pool. >> reporter: well, i mean, i'm sure i take no satisfaction in being right in this. there's a lot at stake here and certainly we look at gambling on legislation so there's money wagered. having said that, toure, i mean, you know, there's just too many ways to lose votes in this thing and not enough to gain votes in this thing and given the dynamic, the bedrock dynamic of the house of
only a senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky, the republican leader, will assure them it will not be filibustered -- investors anticipate a turbulent week in the market of congress and the white house continued the standout. i also note that mr. mcconnell's own reelection bid is coming in 2014. the borrower review of the nothing to shift the anger of some self assessment of the speaker does nothing to pass it does go to the floor. the bill is not moving along, says bob corker from tennessee. here is what the republican from idaho had to say about the fiscal cliff negotiation. [video clip] >> if we get down to the end of the year and the only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle-class, i would support that. but i wish we had a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending, entitlement, and taxes altogether. that is really what we ought to do. host: that was senator johnny isaacson from georgia, excuse me, not from idaho. we will go back to the question here for all of you. we will continue to give you news from the newspapers. but how does religion and l
and mitch mcconnell have been radio silent on negotiations. joining me is will kain and roland martin, a political analyst and columnist. welcome to you both. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. i'm just so sad we have to talk about the fiscal cliff. let's start with you, roland. harry reid comes out and says the house isn't in session. the president is back. the house is going nowhere. john boehner is doing a terrible job and we'll likely go off the cliff because of the republicans. >> it's interesting. this morning i talked to congressman e moon yule cleaver and part of the issue deals with the house rules. they have to have 48-hours notice to come back to washington, d.c. republicans also have a rule -- >> like there are phones. >> but again, the problem is the house rule that they must wait 72 hours to act on legislation. they can always suspend that rule, frankly change it for this particular purpose. that's part of the problem. they waited so long. this is also one of the reasons why congress should have kept their butt in washington, d.c. to get this problem solved because
to report. no conversations with republicans yet. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who can filibuster anything reid proposes, his spokesperson saying quote, no outreach from any dems. we're waiting on senate dems. so, if nothing is done, that means on january 1st, the nation faces about a five trillion dollar tax increase over 10 years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve its annual patch for the alternative minimum tax and that medicare doc fix that prevents deep cuts in medicare payments. now the lapse of the tax cuts would mean that the top tax rate would revert back to 39.6 from the clinton administration from 35% now but taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert back to 15% from 10% now. the for investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20% from 15% now. depending on the analysis, the average family would pay 2,000 to 4 thou more in taxes next year. back to you guys. tracy: peter we were talking about the protocol. you sent a great little ted it about. you have to explain it to
is with mitch mcconnell because this will have to, if we're going to get a deal done originate in the senate. really the roadblock, absolutely democrats will have to compromise on spending cuts 100% but republicans where we have a standstill on this idealogical difference do we raise taxes at all so yeah. gregg: let me ask tony about that since he is the republican. speaker boehner, tony, couldn't even bring his plan up for a vote. i mean it was pretty embarrassing. has he lost control of his own party and failed in his job as leader in the house? >> well, look, speaker boehner has a very hard task and he has already tried ernestly you say a lot of things about him but can't say he hasn't tried to bring two ideas in the forefront. one that works within the bowles-simpson, bipartisan debt commission's framework of tax revenue being part of it but the majority of reform coming from spending cuts. he had the plan b which i think fairly raises threshold. gregg: that was easy for republicans to pass and he couldn't even get votes to put it on the floor. >> without a doubt, gregg, that was a failu
. success depends partly on whether mitch mcconnell decides to filibuster any legislation. there is senate republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confidence? why don't we go ahead and act now? >> the president is insisting tacks go up for the wealthy, but he's now scaled back his expectations for the rest of the year focusing only on a middle class tax cut and extended unemployment benefits. he said he still thinks some kind of deal can be reached, but that optimism is not shared by everyone. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner's so-called plan b, it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not
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